I have never heard of ‘authorization by extension’ and you will find no such mention of this term anywhere in Amazon’s guidelines regarding use of brand names.This sounds like something your supplier made up to keep you purchasing from them.
@Ali are the Gildan blanks supplied directly by Printful? ![]()
I wonder if somehow this is what Gildan is really mad about.
No matter what, I agree with @Neil and @HobbesIsMyTiger earlier that “authorization by extension” is actually just supply chain documentation for authenticity purposes, not actually authorization for IP use.
@Ali can you please update on the status of your most recent appeal? And to clarify, is it this one?
We were also not familiar with this term. An Amazon agent called our authorization “authorization by extension” while we were on call with them, so we went with it. Our Supplier never mentioned it.
Hi @HobbesIsMyTiger , We have written another POA. Can you please check? We tried to be as clear and short as possible.
Amazon Team,
We hope this email finds you well. We are writing to address the suspension of our account due to potential intellectual property misuse. Our business legal name is (), but we do business as ().
Root Cause:
A) We acknowledge that our account was flagged because we listed products that, as per Amazon’s records, we did not have authorization to sell. While we believed we had the necessary permissions, we understand that Amazon did not have the required proof of this authorization.
Immediate Corrective Actions:
A) To address this, we have deleted all items that were listed without proper authorization, not just the flagged ones. We’ve taken this step to demonstrate our commitment to adhering to Amazon’s policies and ensuring that we only list products we have clear authorization to sell.
Permissions and Valid Proofs:
We work alongside a renowned print-on-demand company, (). They hold our products at their warehouse and then ship them to the customer’s addresses. () has provided us with an Authorization Letter from the brand that allows us to commercialize the sourced products. Since this issue arose, we have been in daily contact with both () and Gildan to ensure everything is in good standing and that we have all the required permissions to sell their products.
Attached:
- The purchase invoices for the flagged ASINS.
- Screenshots of our conversations with our () Sales Manager on our Slack Private Group, showcasing our commitment to ensure compliance with all guidelines.
- Authorization Letter from the brand.
- () Authorization Letter.
- Order Confirmation showcasing flagged products.
- Verification Related: Bank Letter.
- Verification Related: Monthly Statement.
Preventive Steps:
A) We have thoroughly reviewed all Amazon policies around what products may be listed and sold on Amazon. We have ensured that all our employees are well-informed and aware of all policies regarding the listing of items.
B) We have instituted a stringent review procedure for all product listings, ensuring that images and descriptions are precise and non-infringing. We will provide the necessary Allowance Letter before listing any products, to prevent any future misunderstandings.
C) We have streamlined communication with our suppliers to keep everything in good standing and request any necessary permissions for all products listed on Amazon.
We genuinely hope that this Plan of Action demonstrates our commitment to rectifying the situation and ensuring compliance with Amazon’s policies in the future. If any further documentation or clarifications are needed, please let us know. We deeply appreciate your understanding, prompt attention, and assistance in this matter.
Best Regards,
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Screenshots
Amazon does not like screen shots at all, ever.
our conversations with our () Sales Manager on our Slack Private Group, showcasing our commitment to ensure compliance with all guidelines
Not sure Amazon asked or wants this. This can cause confusion on Amazon’s part when you supply documents that are not requested
@papy Yes, the Gildan blanks were supplied directly by Printful. The flagging was never done by Gildan, according to our knowledge. The Seller notification notes “Potential IP violation” and, we believe, is put in place by Amazon.
Also, I agree with @Neil and maintak. We have emailed Gildan and are now awaiting their response as Printful is not being as helpful as we had hoped.
The first issue I see here is your POA does not have a clear direction.
On one hand you’re acknowledging the issue and you’re saying you were NOT authorized and won’t do it again. On the other hand you’re providing documentation trying to prove you were authorized.
Did you receive authorization directly from Gildan (It must be on Gildan letterhead and be signed by someone who works for Gildan who’s authorized to do so)? If so, your POA should be along the lines of “we have received the appropriate authorization and documentation.” And you should only be attaching the new, valid, LOA.
If you did not receive authorization directly from Gildan, all your documentation is invalid and should not be part of the appeal. (If your strategy is to admit you’re wrong, there’s no need to attach proof of how or why you were wrong).
Also regarding your last 2 attachments. Were these specifically requested by Amazon? I’ve never seen an IP related suspension that asks for a bank letter and statement. Only attach things that requested, if you clutter up an appeal it’s more likely to be rejected. As far as I can tell from your suspension notice identity verification is not an issue and they did not ask for bank statements.
Immediate Corrective Actions:
A) To address this, we have deleted all items that were listed without proper authorization,
not just the flagged ones. We’ve taken this step to demonstrate our commitment to adhering to Amazon’s policies and ensuring that we only list products we have clear authorization to sell.
Factual bullet points. Amazon does not care about your motivations. The more fluff you add, the less likely it is that an overworked, English-as-a-second-language Amazon employee will bother to finish reading your appeal.
Permissions and Valid Proofs:
We work alongside a renowned print-on-demand company, (). They hold our products at their warehouse and then ship them to the customer’s addresses. () has provided us with an Authorization Letter from the brand that allows us to commercialize the sourced products. Since this issue arose, we have been in daily contact with both () and Gildan to ensure everything is in good standing and that we have all the required permissions to sell their products.
Attached:
- The purchase invoices for the flagged ASINS.
- Screenshots of our conversations with our () Sales Manager on our Slack Private Group, showcasing our commitment to ensure compliance with all guidelines.
- Authorization Letter from the brand.
- () Authorization Letter.
- Order Confirmation showcasing flagged products.
- Verification Related: Bank Letter.
- Verification Related: Monthly Statement
None of this was requested. Adding your own sections to a POA will result in the rejection of your POA. As I said in my original advice:
When dealing with Amazon, a good rule of thumb is to give them what they ask, exactly what they ask, only what they ask, and nothing else.
I’ve worked many of these suspensions. You haven’t found the issue or given a real plan to resolve it. That leaves your POA ineffective.
In the past I’ve seen issues with the use of the brand of shirt in this type of “modified” product. Several sellers were selling team jerseys but using the brand of the shirt in the title. That was a no-no.
Until you find the specific issue Amazon found I don’t see you getting reinstated.
@oneida_books You are correct. But we have not used the word Gildan anywhere in our listings.
The Titles of our listings were;
**Listing Title**
(Our Brand Name) Sweatshirt | JDM Car Sweatshirt | Anime clothing |(Our Brand Name) Anime Streetwear Clothing | Unisex | Breathable | Car Lover
**Listing Description:**
Only good vibes.
Designed for breathable warmth and comfort. Stay cool in the summer, or warm in the winter. A sturdy and warm sweatshirt bound to keep you warm in the colder months. Pre-shrunk, classic fit sweater that's made with air-jet spun yarn for a soft feel.
NOTES
Tracking numbers are available once the item arrives in the destination country.
Please refer to our sizing chart and double-check your selection before placing your order.
* 50% cotton, 50% polyester
* Fabric weight: 8 oz/yd² (271 g/m²)
* Yarn diameter: 20 singles
* Soft fleece fabric inside and outside
* Air-jet spun yarn for reduced piling
* Regular fit
* Metal zipper
* Front pouch pockets
* Unlined hood with color-matched drawcord
* Overlapped fabric across zipper
* Double-needle stitching at shoulders, armholes, neck, waistband, and cuffs
* Safety Green: Compliant with ANSI/ISEA 107
I have been able to get hold of the Title and description we used, but unfortunately, I was not able to get the mockup images from our partner as amazon deleted all of the content there.
@GGX and papy Thank you for your suggestions. I will rewrite the POA. I appreciate your help!
@Ali has any of the latest responses from Amazon included the verbiage, “We may no longer respond to emails on this issue,” or something to that effect?
They typically only give people so many tries before basically ignoring them.
We are not using the word “Gildan” or have anything linking us to them in our listing. We are just using their blanks with supplier authorization. Yes, I have just confirmed the letter of authorization that our supplier gave us.
First - the authorization doesn’t matter when you get it from the printing company.
Second - you shouldn’t even need it if you are printing on the product and changing it.
So IF you are 100% certain that you haven’t used “Gildan” anywhere (and I suspect you haven’t, thus the use of “potential”) then I would go at this as “in error.”
Possibly Amazon is just going after sellers using their shirt to print on … which is not an IP violation. In your case you can brand the finished product with a different brand and never refer to the “Gildan” brand at all because you have modified the product into a somewhat different product.
It’s been years ago when I went through this with a client who sold Jerseys made on “Nike” shirts. I had to get him to cover the logo on the shirt images and remove all mention of “Nike” from the product data. However in the end he was reinstated.
@RandomUsername Well, They have not said that. However, a Rep told us that our account cannot be reinstated at this time on the Amazon forums.
They’re not really saying anything in that post, other than you need to appeal with an acceptable POA.
I don’t know how much power the forum mods have with “escalations,” but if you have not submitted an acceptable POA there’s nothing to escalate until you have.
@oneida_books We did not use the word Gildan anywhere. We have repeatedly told Amazon that we are selling these products under our separate brand in our POA. Can you please tell us how you worded that POA as best as you can remember? I am rewriting the one I sent previously but I am still not sure what to point out as our mistake.
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Can you please tell us how you worded that POA as best as you can remember? I am rewriting the one I sent previously but I am still not sure what to point out as our mistake.
I’ve followed your travails on this front ever since I first noticed your mention of it in the NSFE on 31July2023 (using a different Forum Handle than you’re using now).
I suspect that I may have the inkling of a notion as to why Amazon is balking over your attempts to correct this situation favorably, based upon the fact that your fellow countrymen who do not ascribe to Western Societies norms in the conduction of business - which, to me, currently, would not appear to be the case in your particular situation - have SO tarred all of y’all with a broad brush.
Can you please tell us how you worded that POA as best as you can remember?
Sorry, but I can’t. Every case is different and I write them specific to the details I find.
I am rewriting the one I sent previously but I am still not sure what to point out as our mistake.
Until you determine that I don’t see your PoA working.
Maybe see if Account Health can give you a hint. Sometimes they can help some if you show what you have investigated already.
Maybe see if Account Health can give you a hint. Sometimes they can help some if you show what you have investigated already.
@Ali any luck with this? ![]()
Maybe see if Account Health can give you a hint. Sometimes they can help some if you show what you have investigated already.
This has not been my experience. Every interaction I have had with Account Health has shown they are as siloed as Seller Support.
