I was out of town for a couple days. When one of the casinos comps us a room (seriously, we don’t go there very much!) we GO!
Many, (most?) of the removed responses were slamming me and telling me that I needed apologize to all the ‘receipts are fine’ crowd. I had a feeling that eating copious amounts of crow would not have helped though.
I rarely tag any responses as inappropriate but a couple did get clicked as such this time.
Here is some added information on this topic since I did have a MOD open a case and she and I went back and forth a bit about this.
Since I don’t think there is anything ‘confidential’ included, here is the last bit of communication I had with @michelle_amazon on the removed topic. At the bottom I am posting what I had sent her with this response received.
**"I have been able to confirm that that Amazon will accept receipts, just not for all items, so the information provided was incorrect that was posted and why it was removed. This is why we are still seeing this verbiage in the help pages and the links that you had previously provided. **
If I am able to gather any further information, I will be sure to let you know.
Thank you for selling with Amazon,
Michelle
I keep trying to shame them into doing something. NOTE that I am not an attorney but spent 35 years in the investment business and about 15 of that in the Compliance Departments of two pretty big firms dealing with all the vagaries of regulatory wording such as is found in the INFORM Act, thus my comments there about what is buried and never referred to that I have seen –
After saying the post by @glenn_amazon was GREAT I tried the “shame on you” route!
…is there any chance that Amazon will actually grow a spine on the receipt issue?
"“3. Nothing you buy from online or physical (brick-and-mortar) retailers can be resold. That would be considered a “counterfeit” product under the new rules and you may risk having your account permanently deactivated.”
I quoted it and then APPARENTLY Amazon manglement forced the removal of the most direct statement on receipts that I have ever seen on the site.
I have been getting slammed (as has @tvoi50) by the trolls such as @flyavifly_boutique who has been stalking me and slamming everything I and others have said about RA, OA, receipts versus invoices, etc.. They have been putting out information about me and others that they have dug up because AMAZON decided to ‘out’ all of the sellers posting on the site.
Flyavi stated this – “In the last 24 hours there have already been statements from law firms that have consulted with Amazon legal to verify that the moderator that posted this made claims that aren’t backed anywhere in Amazon Seller TOS.” and suddenly the #3 clause magically disappeared. So, Amazon folded their tent under legal pressue and is not willing to put the invoice requiremtn in writing because it will cost them money.
The answer is simple (but it WILL cost Amazon money so I suppose it will never happen) –
PUT IT IN WRITING that INVOICES from authorized distributors are required.
Frankly (and I’m not an attorney but my daughter is) a close reading of the INFORM Act REQUIRES that Amazon have proof of authenticity for the products sold here – for Amazon, here is an additional risk that no one seems to pay much attention to.
Amazon has hundreds of thousands of dropshippers and RA sellers (some that are dumb enough to have Walmart or eBay send items directly to Amazon buyers). For Amazon that can cause severe problems –
Directly from the law – (emphasis added in my Forum posts where I referred to this)
“(ii) Whether the high-volume third party seller used a different seller to supply the consumer product to the consumer upon purchase, and, upon the request of an authenticated purchaser, the information described in clause (i) relating to any such seller that supplied the consumer product to the purchaser, if such seller is different than the high-volume third party seller listed on the product listing prior to purchase.”
In other words, if the AMAZON seller used a different seller to supply the consumer product to the consumer (COMMENT–dropshipped or RA direct from someone else) that seller MUST provide the information for the source of the items and the authenticity of such.
As to proving authenticity, again from the law –
Although the law doesn’t list specific verification steps, the methods the online marketplace chooses must enable it “to reliably determine that any information and documents provided are valid, corresponding to the seller or an individual acting on the seller’s behalf, not misappropriated, and not falsified.”
Perhaps your attorneys would like to revisit the removal of that clause saying ‘receipts don’t count’."
End of rant for the moment!