I am a bit torn with this…I don’t believe in absolutes because things are almost never black and white.
Maybe Facebook bots have seen TT trending and are responding the only way they know how. Because they’re bots. 
And apparently better trained and actually doing things to make money for the company, as opposed to the clunkers on Amazon that should all be relegated to a scrap heap (perhaps in China).
US Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-upholds-law-banning-tiktok-2025-01-17/
Even more now I am convinced that Meta/Facebook is going to buy it.
Ya … But who’s going to fact check that?
Never survive an antitrust review. Monopoly…
Although now that certain people are buddies with a certain someone, you never know.
How is the government going to ban something on the internet? Block their DNS? Block their IP block? Not even sure this is feasible. I’m not a fan of Tik Tok, but this is not a road we should be going down IMHO. Censorship is not a good thing anywhere. This is a snake with a million heads, cut off one and another appears.
-Ana
There are lots of things that are blocked. It’s very feasible.
The same can be said for TikTok and their overall operation.
There’s too much money involved with TT and too much outrage that is going to happen. TikTok will be back if it ever even goes dark at some point soon, hopefully under US ownership / operation.
Example (if you can post it). Apparently I am naive about this for some reason. I’m not aware of any place I can’t go on the web, even if it would be considered reprehensible other than national security sites, but they are secured on purpose, not banned. I am not saying you’re wrong, I’m just not aware of any censorship in the US like they are proposing for TT.
I agree that TT will not go away, and I was referring to TT as the snake with a million heads. Banning stuff never works if people want it, think alcohol, etc. Banning websites is also a bit unsettling to me. Not trying to be political here in any way as this actually would affect some peoples business.
-Ana
Hmmmm, You’re right. It does appear that this would be the first ever foreign backed App blocked in the US. I thought there were others.
Well… There are other Apps we can’t access because google and apple won’t allow certain things in their app stores for 1 reason or another.
I totally get that and that’s a shame. We were all set up to go with TT, verified, store set up and everything and then we paused when this all started to be talked about way back when.
I still don’t think it will be gone for long if it goes.
The capability to sensor does exist on the WWW by country / location. Probably could get around that with a VPN TBH.
As far as I know the government doesn’t have that capability. They would have to get every ISP or backbone provider to agree to block the site. I don’t see that happening. Sure, an ISP has the capability to block sites IF they so choose. I can block entire IP blocks or specific countries on my home built router if I want also, but the government? I’m not so sure they would be able to convince every internet provider to block certain sites. Google, or other search engines can suppress search, but that’s not going to stop anyone from directly accessing a known URL. I have my doubts about this being a reality and if it is, it’s extremely dangerous. China and North Korea does it, but do we really want to be like them here in the USA?
-Ana
I’m just as clueless as to how “selling” it also would fix the issues 
. Like how much gets sold…the tech, the employees ?
If it’s just sold “on paper”, but still keeps all the same employees…well we all know loose lips sink ships. How exactly do we know Bytedance/CCP/China doesn’t have a back door already installed if the company is “sold” lol. If it gets sold, who’s going to over see all that?
This whole charade is just smoke and mirrors I think for something different.
The capability does exist - it was, after all, a fundamental aspect of the CDA (“Communications Decency Act of 1996”) itself - and such leverage has been used more than a few times before, most recently (@ least, as far is publicly known) in the blocking of certain Iranian- and Russian-domiciled websites.
There’s a reason why SCOTUS came down 9-0 on the decision…just as there’s a reason why one cannot yell “FIRE!!!” in a public assemblage, and subsequently claim First Amendment protections if the available evidence does not support the absolute need to do so.
I believe that most of us (or, @ least, most of us who use our noggins for more than a mere hat-rack) are not inclined to be in favor of censorship in most any fashion - but there’s a reason why I made the 011625 prediction in Post #17 upthread.
I guess it depends on whom you’re reading.
There are posts saying the President is choosing not to enforce the ban and that the buck is being passed to the Present-elect.
I don’t know what enforcement implies, but it would seem that Tiktok will get a reprieve. I can’t say for sure because i don’t know what not enforcing the law means - we won’t know till we know I guess. It’s still a day or two out.
My understanding is that it is simply the app itself that will be banned for new download in the US–not that the content itself is blocked, either via app or website.
My understanding is that having the app on a phone means that the data from that phone that is collected, accessed, or viewable by this specific app is then subject to possible disclosure to the foreign government where the app/site/company is headquartered–what we in the US would call unreasonable search and seizure, that is not voluntary or disclosed or even made known to users.
My understanding is that the company itself said that if new downloads of the app are banned in the US, that they might then choose to go dark here–not that that is what is required legally by the US at this time.
My understanding is that the content itself is not being censored and will still be available (unless the company itself removes access by US users), no already-downloaded app instances will be retracted (though unavailable for any future updates), and that TikTok may still maintain a web presence in the US.
And finally, my understanding is that US-based ownership would remove the threat of that certain foreign government being able to access user data, going forward.
Yeah this has been quite unclear. That being said, there are screen shots floating showing a notice in the toktik app saying due to US law we will be shutting down as of midnight, we are working on a solution (or something close to that wording), so, 
Honestly, if it’s just the new app downloads that are legally banned but that makes the company go completely dark here (and cite this reason), then that feels…suspicious. 
As with all social media, WE are the product.
