Shipping Delays Expected on the East Coast

Humankind has always had a tendency to mythologize situations which are not properly understood.

Modern conspiracy theorists & other fabulists are simply carrying on that ages-old trend.

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There is excess container handling capacity from Boston to Norfolk. Out my window, I can see the Elizabeth/Newark NJ container cranes, and the Bayonne, NJ container cranes - all but 3 are swung up, awaiting ships. There are dozens. The RO/RO dock has only one RO/RO ship in at the moment. I will not county Brooklyn, as no one in their right mind would bring cargo into NYC planning to take it elsewhere.

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There is TONS of spin on this, and we have extremely high resolution video of the entire incident. It very clearly shows the accident, and before people start ā€œWell that camera was staged!!ā€ itā€™s a navigation channel camera. There are TONS of them out there.

Makes me sick how people are trying to re-narrate this tragedy

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Agreed, but is the workforce there is the question. We all know Amazon has logistics issues, imagine this.

I know ships were being re-routed south for now. It does change where truckers, container chassis, and train well cars need to head, but it can be done.

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And most others.

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Yes. The same was said in the wake of 9/11, despite the fact that NYC had sported a bewildering plethora of recording cameras for decades prior.

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I think we are veering off course with this thread so I will refrain.

But yea, itā€™s really sad what people waste their time on.

The phenomenon is nothing new. Social just made it explode.

Those that were once in their little box or padded room are now out and about.

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Can verify.
Had an idiot with a speedboat run at high speed BETWEEN my sailboat and its towed Zodiac RIB, cutting the tow line with their prop. Had to bring a 60-footer about under motor, and go chase my beloved Beach Assault Transport (ā€œthe BATā€) with the help of a charter fishing boat who saw what happened. The charter guy told me to report the incident to the harbor master, who pulled up high-rez video of the whole thing. Homeland security funds, I think every harbor is wired for video, wall to wall.

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Are you saying you donā€™t think that extraterrestrial beings actually sucked the bridge into their underwater Baltimore Triangle base because End Times but staged a fake container ship crash using the Brown Mountain Lights?! :eyes:

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In the realm of FACTS, hereā€™s a timeline of events:

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The ā€œmoney quoteā€ from Ms. Oā€™Kaneā€™s article, methinks:

"ā€¦

Tug boats, which are routinely used at the Port of Baltimore to help get vehicles out of the docking station, were already cut loose when the Daliā€™s pilots and crew lost control of the ship.

Ships are not required to have escorts through the bridge.

ā€¦"

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From reports I heard, the tugs were headed to the Dali as fast as they could, but were not able to get there in time.

Note that there are safety issues for tugs to be close to a ship of this size once it speeds up; hence not escorting it all the way to the bridge.

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And thatā€™s the crux of the matter; thereā€™s only a singular reason for speeding up when crossing a boundary like this, and it ainā€™t good.

I donā€™t recall the exact timetable, but I think it was over 40 minutes from when the ship left the quay until it reached the bridge; most of that distance was after the tugs were cut loose.
Keeping the speed down to the safe level for the tugs to operate would seem to greatly increase the time required to get the ship out of harbor, which could have other consequences, both in regards to traffic levels, and possibly raise other safety issues.

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This video, which came out very shortly after the accident so short on details of what was known for sure, does a pretty good job of explaining some of the way things went, at least as far as my pretty much complete lack of knowledge on the subject can tell:

Ironically, it was only shortly before the accident that I watched this video; gives a bit of an idea of how hard this is when everything is working:

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Iā€™m saying it really bothers me when people turn to stupidity in tragic situations.

I have a friend that doesnā€™t think we landed on the moon. She really believes that.

I wonā€™t get into the other things she believes. Iā€™ve tried to talk sense into her for the last 12 years but itā€™s like talking to a wall.

Her picture on my phone is actually a brick wall and her name and she knows it.

Does this make her a bad person - No. I just will never understand how seemingly very intelligent people (sheā€™s smarter than I am) - can think the things they do.

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Book smart is much different than Street Smart!

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Some pictures I stumbled acrossā€¦



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Yeah, Iā€™ve known a few people like that; or at least have serious doubts.

Iā€™ve not seen it, but Iā€™ve heard there was a movie made in the UK in the 80s, about the people trying to fake the moon landing. They came up with all sorts of ways to simulate the moon, and to fake everything that was needed, but finally decided that the easiest way to do it was to film it on the moon, as the technical difficulties would be much less than filming it on Earth.

And then thereā€™s that documentary on the Flat Earth Society. Amazing what people will do to prop up beliefs so easily refuted by facts. Best part; they visited the Space Museum in Houston; got there by using their GPS.

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But back to talking about the accident; Iā€™m not at all bothered by the SOP of not having the tugs along.
But Iā€™ve read reports (again, Iā€™m no expert) of the ship having a large number of problems, including electrical, before even leaving the quay. Maybe this number is typical, and just a case of how things are reported. But if the number is quite high, or they were problems with important and/or non-redundant systems, then perhaps a bit more caution would have been appropriate (and if Iā€™m getting ready to go on an ocean voyage on a ship, I would not want to leave the dock if there were reasons to think that power might be lost, whether in the port or on the high seas).

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