# Sometimes you have to NOT be subtle **URL:** \ **Category:** NSFE Talkback\ **Tags:** suspended-account, related-accounts\ **Created:** [November 10, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667 "2023-11-10T18:09:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/dwat0870/32/5233_2.png) [@dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/dwat0870)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/1 "2023-11-10T18:09:07Z")
So this OP wanted some help and I tagged a few MODS. It went downhill from there. I’m not sure if I was subtle enough with my last response though… [https://sellercentral.amazon.com/seller-forums/discussions/t/7f0a7da8-eaf0-44fc-a689-64808183dbf3?postId=f5cb521f-f5d4-4be2-80d4-7480ee915c76](https://sellercentral.amazon.com/seller-forums/discussions/t/7f0a7da8-eaf0-44fc-a689-64808183dbf3?postId=f5cb521f-f5d4-4be2-80d4-7480ee915c76) ![image](https://sellersasksellers.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4070a41b6172cb95954552c484cc11bf8f318c47.png) ---
**Author:** ![HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/hobbesismytiger/32/8000_2.png) [@HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/HobbesIsMyTiger)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/2 "2023-11-10T18:28:17Z")
This is just another reason why I have no interest in dealing with the NSFE. Another seller who didn’t read what they were agreeing to, had their account suspended for something, who knows what at this point, and now wants to make a new account, which is naturally inactive because it was linked to their suspended account. Making a new account in someone else’s name is not even a new or interesting twist. How many times have we heard this story? How many times have we offered the same advice, that the original account has to be reactivated or nothing will help? How many times were we told to stop being so mean with our factual reality and practically actionable advice? Meh to the whole thing. Sellers like this one can’t be trusted not to make things worse for all of us, and I no longer care to help them. ---
**Author:** ![papy](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/papy/32/7639_2.png) [@papy](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/papy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/3 "2023-11-10T19:22:45Z")
To be clear, that would be NSFE OP’s _third_ account. They opened a _second_ account, to try to workaround what appears to be a lack of verification on the _first_ account, and now those two are both suspended. Not sure why OP thinks [making the same mistake again](https://sellercentral.amazon.com/seller-forums/discussions/t/7f0a7da8-eaf0-44fc-a689-64808183dbf3?postId=7256305c-1afb-4d62-8b4d-5e336061cb45) will solve the problem. 🤦‍♀️ > [@](#): > > _all the cases are closed it looks like. But to summarize what my issue is I had two sellers account under the same name. I deleted all the marketplaces under my first seller account I created. I sent plenty appeals with screenshots that confirm the first seller account is closed. I even went back into the account and when i log in, It shows me no sellers account in that email account. I just dont understand how amazon still sees my other account and wont let me reactivate this selling account. Please help me because I dont know what kind of proof amazon wants._ ---
**Author:** ![dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/dwat0870/32/5233_2.png) [@dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/dwat0870)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/4 "2023-11-10T21:52:25Z")
> [@papy](#): > > Not sure why OP thinks making the same mistake again will solve the problem. Well, obviously because practice makes perfect. The amazing part is that I’m sure this clown is not even close to the most accounts opened and closed in an attempt to sell/scam on Amazon. The number of suspensions being posted seems to be increasing exponentially on the NSFE (or my preference – NNIF-- New NOT Improved Forum) in the past several days. ---
**Author:** ![papy](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/papy/32/7639_2.png) [@papy](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/papy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/5 "2023-11-10T22:14:26Z")
> [@dwat0870](#): > > Well, obviously because practice makes perfect. LOL4R 🤣🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Picks\_by\_Nisha](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/picks_by_nisha/32/1367_2.png) [@Picks\_by\_Nisha](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Picks_by_Nisha)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/6 "2023-11-11T02:10:48Z")
He states that he “deleted” the first account. My guess is that he told his browser to “forget” the login credentials, and thinks that’s all that’s needed. (We’ve all seen stuff far dumber). ---
**Author:** ![lake](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/lake/32/66_2.png) [@lake](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/lake)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/7 "2023-11-12T21:42:35Z")
Here is another thread that needs an unsubtle response [https://sellercentral.amazon.com/seller-forums/discussions/t/f61aa5dc-99f5-4333-bc71-09812781d098](https://sellercentral.amazon.com/seller-forums/discussions/t/f61aa5dc-99f5-4333-bc71-09812781d098) Seller is getting killed by FBA storage fees after a 8.5% sales drop. Needs to be told that he can not leave his inventory levels on auto-pilot. They need to be managed actively. ---
**Author:** ![Pepper\_Thine\_Angus](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/pepper_thine_angus/32/56_2.png) [@Pepper\_Thine\_Angus](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Pepper_Thine_Angus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/8 "2023-11-12T22:05:59Z")
Yep, let them make a 4th account. Then a 5th. We all know they aren’t getting a new bank or cc, or a new address, or a new internet connection or pc. And even if they are, let them waste the $ ---
**Author:** ![Picks\_by\_Nisha](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/picks_by_nisha/32/1367_2.png) [@Picks\_by\_Nisha](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Picks_by_Nisha)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/9 "2023-11-13T01:15:32Z")
Yep. I do both FBM and FBA, and I can attest, the FBA is a **LOT** more work, at least in regards to paying attention to inventory and pricing. It’s amazing how many people think that FBA means “passive income”. Although I’ll admit, for managing FBA inventory for replenishable items, I would have only the faintest clue of handling seasonal variations. ---
**Author:** ![HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/hobbesismytiger/32/8000_2.png) [@HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/HobbesIsMyTiger)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/10 "2023-11-13T01:30:39Z")
I also sell FBA and FBM, and FBA is a lot of work if you want to do it right, but so much of the work is done in bulk that the total work/sale is generally lower than FBM, at least for me. I imagine this can vary widely depending on the volatility of seasonal sales, shelf life of the items, etc. FBA is most certainly not passive income though. That idea is the fever-fantasy of a deluded utoob guru trying to sell the idea that you can just pick an item more or less at random and ship a container of it directly to FBA and sit back as the money rolls in. We all know better. ---
**Author:** ![Lost\_My\_Marbles](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/lost_my_marbles/32/2919_2.png) [@Lost\_My\_Marbles](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Lost_My_Marbles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/11 "2023-11-13T01:44:10Z")
> [@HobbesIsMyTiger](#): > > We all know better. You would think … We still politely smile when one of our relatives comments …“it must be nice to work from home” (as if we sit in front of the TV 24/7) … “you’re so lucky” … (we’ve learned how to refrain from smacking them) … and yes … these relatives are the same people who think we just sign onto the internet and make money … > [@HobbesIsMyTiger](#): > > We all know better. But there are those that don’t. ---
**Author:** ![HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/hobbesismytiger/32/8000_2.png) [@HobbesIsMyTiger](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/HobbesIsMyTiger)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/12 "2023-11-13T01:46:21Z")
I meant “we” as in… SAS members 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/dwat0870/32/5233_2.png) [@dwat0870](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/dwat0870)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/13 "2023-11-13T01:54:02Z")
> [@Lost\_My\_Marbles](#): > > we’ve learned how to refrain from smacking them Your self control is amazing… ![cMqT7JTR9p-1](https://sellersasksellers.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f90f38b731c85f3eaaae11d58843d328d4fd84cd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lost\_My\_Marbles](https://sellersasksellers.com/user_avatar/sellersasksellers.com/lost_my_marbles/32/2919_2.png) [@Lost\_My\_Marbles](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Lost_My_Marbles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/14 "2023-11-13T01:54:25Z")
We know … but couldn’t resist … 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Haegan2005](https://sellersasksellers.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e8c25b/32.png) [@Haegan2005](https://sellersasksellers.com/u/Haegan2005)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://sellersasksellers.com/t/sometimes-you-have-to-not-be-subtle/2667/15 "2023-11-13T16:19:25Z")
More likely he deleted the buyers side of the sellers account. This has been a known issue for years and would result in what he is claiming.