Your account will be migrated to DD+7 on March 12

When you look at the Payment > Transaction page, does this transaction show as “released”?

If yes, then we would say YES reimbursement transactions will go directly to the Funds Available > Now.

Overthink?? Me??? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Not a chance. Well, when it comes to Amazon it’s just trying to game the gamer. Since I’m coming up on 17 years and have always had the ‘request payment’ option, I’m just trying to get as ‘normal’ as I can and have cash flow coming in quicker – even by a day or two.

So, yes, looking for an edge but the risk of triggering AHT and all the rest of their “rewards” will probably force me to not do anything except ship as required.

I hope I am not the only person that believes Amazon WILL eventually force everyone into AHT and Amazon BS (buy shipping, not the standard BS). :face_with_symbols_on_mouth::face_with_symbols_on_mouth::face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

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This is what we also experienced.

The reason the prior orders went into Account Level Reserve is that the associated fees of those orders had already been paid to Amazon and so these orders couldn’t be moved into Deferred Transactions where associated order fees are not paid to Amazon until the funds are released.

So basically, Amazon got their associated order fees on these orders up front but put the payment portion due to the sellers on hold until these orders cleared the DD+7 requirement.

At this point, we have been into it 3 weeks and everything has settled down into what we would have expected … and all orders involved in the initial hold at transition have been paid.

The one thing we would point out is the “Est Transaction Release Date” when viewing your Deferred Transaction page is actually the day before the money is actually released. The date shown is the last day of the DD+7.

When you buy a label on Amazon or enter the tracking number, the initial “Est Transaction Release Date” is the Estimated Deliver by Date on the order + 7.

When the order is delivered, the “Est Transaction Release Date” will be updated to reflect as Delivery Date + 7.

Yes.

That’s the case for this one and possiblly for other kinds of reimbursements too.

But all my order payment were also in “Released” status after they were shipped, but those money didn’t go directly into “Funds available now”.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

… that was a pretty good line but not sure it is going to fly

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Those were orders that are involved in your transition to DD+7 …

Amazon’s way of transitioning is why you are seeing this released / not released thing on the orders involved in your transition.

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In our case (100% FBA, transitioned last Tuesday), all transactions show “Released”, but despite having an available Total Balance, Funds Available Now show $0 (no option to initiate disbursement), and that changes to our Total Balance - Account Reserve when I click it on “At Settlement End”.

Not sure why that is - I assumed I would be able to initiate daily disbursements for our total balance minus the account reserve, but that’s not the case.

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The orders involved in the transition are moved to Account Level Reserves because they have not met DD+7 requirement but have had the associated fee paid to Amazon (therefore those orders can not be put in Deferred Transactions where the associated fees are not paid to Amazon until the transaction is released).

As the orders involved in transition meet DD+7, the funds due to you will be released from Account Level Reserves and move to Standard Orders > Total Balance and should appear available in Funds Available Now (which is what you are previewing by clicking “At Settlements End”).

This will become available as the transition involve orders meet DD+7.
No … there is no way to track these orders movement on Amazon (we had to set up an excel sheet to do it manually).

New orders shipped will show up in Deferred Transactions and will be released to Standard Orders > Total Balance > Funds Available upon being delivered and meeting DD+7 OR upon passing the Deliver by Date on the order and meeting DD+7 (which ever occurs first).

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I was talking about the orders I got after transitioning to DD+7. I was changed to the new system on 3/5, and so far I have had 2 disbursments already, on 3/13 & 3/27, and all the order I had after 3/5, none of them went into Deferred Transactions.

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Do you have a Request Payment button on your Payment page?

And if yes, has it ever turned active to allow you to request a payment?

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Yes, I do have “Request Payment” button since about 3/13, the dollar amount in there changes, mostly goes up, but it also goes down to pay for shipping labels, etc. I can request for whatever amount that was showing there, but I haven’t done it. I’m used to every 2 weeks transfer and wanted to keep to that schedule for now.

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… ummm … and the orders that you ship now do not go into Deferred Transactions? … they are still paid at the time you ship?

If so, we wouldn’t get use to it and plan for the day that they start going into Deferred Transactions. That would be a glitch in the system and at some point in time Amazon will catch it.

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Nothing is going to Deferred Transaction so far, they all go into Account level Reserve when they are shipped.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens.

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Ok … that is different than being released and paid.

Is Amazon collecting the Amazon fees associated with those orders and charging them to your Standard Orders > Total Balance at the time of shipping?

Did you have an Account Level Reserve before the transition?

It sounds like Amazon is setting you up to have a running Account Level Reserve OR somehow your account is running differed transactions through Account Level Reserves (which this new Differed Transaction reporting was suppose to take over) and so would possibly be a glitch in your payment system.

If that doesn’t change in a couple of more weeks, we would open a case as it doesn’t follow the pattern most are seeing.

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Yep

Nope. All of a sudden on 3/24 the Net proceeds went to Account level reserve.

I have a feeling that this is the “fix” amazon has for issues in converting accounts to DD+7

On 3/26 the account level reserves dropped and the Net proceeds showed the previous periods transactions. The available proceeds for disbursement went to $50
I feel Amazon ■■■■■■ up the codeing once again

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Ok … no … Amazon is releasing the funds of the orders that went into Account Level Reserves as they are delivered and meet the DD+7 requirements. This is what we went through.

You should start seeing your newly shipped orders go into Deferred Transactions.

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Can we lobby that Amazon implement a DD+7 policy for their developers’ payroll. If, upon release of new code + 7 days, there are no major fuckups, you get paid. If not, you have to write a POA and lose account health, with the threat of instant termination looming any minute.

I’d be on board.

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Something we noticed this morning.

The “At Settlement End” does not function after all of your funds are represented by “Deferred Transactions”.

“At Settlement End” only functioned while there were funds in transition (the ones that went into Account Level Reserve and then moved to Standard Orders > Total Balance but not released at transition).

Since all of our “held orders” have cleared DD+7 and been released, the “At Settlement End” button does not forecast the “At Settlement End” $$$ amount. It remains the same as the “Now” amount.

It would surprise us if “At Settlement End” disappears in a month or two … once all the DD+7 have been completed.

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It’ll still be there though it might not do much (like things I have in my dashboard that don’t apply to my “settings”). As I’ve said multiple times, I (and probably others who were already on DD+7 by default when we started) don’t even have Deferred Transactions as a “placeholder” and all transactions go into Account Level Reserve and thus At Settlement End is always “active”.

Account Type: Standard Orders is greyed out (not clickable) interesting, right?

Amazon obviously has a LOT of different “user groups” (like forum settings but for seller accounts).

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Wow. You don’t have invoiced orders?

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