Amazon SAFE-T Claim advice, please

We received a return of a book where the scumbag who bought it lied about his return reason (inaccurate website description). He first claimed the book was in “acceptable” condition instead of “good,” the condition we listed it in, accurately, with a thorough description. We listed it as good only because it has a little it of underlining in the first few pages and some light exterior creases (fully disclosed in our description). Other sellers probably would have listed it as “very good,” but we grade conservatively.

After we got his auto-authorized return request (and rightfully suspecting return fraud), we sent him a message advising him of Amazon’s current condition guidelines for grading books. He then claimed there was a page falling out, which we knew to be a lie. I bought, inspected, listed and packaged this book myself. We offered him a partial refund and said he could keep the book if he accepted it. He did not, and returned the book, packaged in a flimsy, non-padded vinyl mailer.

The returned book has NO loose pages.

Unusually, Amazon did not refund at first scan. So now we have 4 calendar days in which to issue a refund. We want the return shipping cost back, however, Amazon’s guidelines say that only Amazon-issued refunds are eligible for SAFE-T Claims, but they also say that refunds issued after 4 days by Amazon also make the order ineligible for SAFE-T Claims. This seems incongruous. Here is the seller help page where I am seeing this:

When I go to issue a refund, I am allowed only to issue a full refund OR refund half the amount the customer paid plus more under “additional refunds,” as if it’s a concession. We want to refund the full amount minus the return shipping charge, which we feel was wrongly charged to us. But in order to do this, I would have to fill in half the order amount, then put in the remainder under “additional refunds.” That is bizarre, but I can’t see any other way to do it. For example (not the actual order cost): Total order is $30. I want to refund $24. Partial refund allows me to fill in only $15, then I would have to add $9 under “additional refunds,” as if it’s a concession.

We know that if we issue a partial refund he may file an A-Z Claim. But this guy is a real turd, very rude and already alluded to negative feedback (which our account could handle). He appears to be a reseller who decided he couldn’t make any money on the book so lied about his return reason. We feel that we could defend the claim. We also wonder if the reason there was no RFS is that this guy is a serial returner whose account has been flagged for pulling this shinola before.

But another avenue would be to refund him in full and then file a SAFE-T Claim, but it looks like we are screwed on that level whatever we do – issue the full refund ourselves or let Amazon do it after 4 days.

Any advice? Am I missing something in the rules?

I don’t sell books so I don’t know if it’s different, but on my returns, I can withhold other stocking fees besides just 50%. Sometimes photos are required. Is this not the case for books?

If you refund, the order is not eligible for a SAFE-T claim.

I do have the option to withhold a restocking fee, but I have to choose a reason from a dropdown, and none of those are the reason for the partial refund, i.e. materially different or lightly or moderately damaged. Plus if I do that, I am required to post photos for anything other than a full refund. And the restocking fees are pre-determined percentages.

We just had a discussion via chat with Seller Support. Yes, I know they cannot be trusted to know anything, but we tried. We explained the situation, and below were the instructions we ended up with. Nothing we had not already tried. The associate insisted the buyer “will not file an A-Z Claim.” Hmm, really? Part of me hopes she knows that because the liar has tried this before and is barred from filing claims, but that’s likely wishful thinking. Here are her instructions, which is exactly what I had already tried:

  1. Navigate to the order and select the partial refund option
  2. Enter the specific refund amount in the appropriate field
  3. Select a reason for the partial refund from the dropdown menu

Steps to Issue the Partial Refund

For returns with restocking fees or return shipping charges:

Go to Orders > Manage Seller Fulfilled Returns and locate the order .

Click Issue Refund on the order .

On the Refund order page, click Charge restocking fee under the Amount to refund column to withhold a portion of the refund .

You can also use the Additional Refunds/Charges section to charge return shipping or adjust the refund amount .

Yes, photos are required for partial refunds. I believe they are only looked at in the unlikely even of the buyer filing an AtoZ claim over the withheld funds.

At the far right of the predetermined restocking fees should be an “other” field where you can enter your own percentage.

I am ordinarily very much a color inside the lines seller, but in this case, where Amazon has eliminated all remaining options to legitimately deal with fraudulent return reasons for customer faulted returns, I sometimes misrepresent the restocking fee reason to get back the return shipping. I’m not ashamed.

If you want to adhere strictly to Amazon’s current policies, there is no way to get the return shipping back for this order.

I issued the refund in the amount of the order minus the return postage charge. I did this by filling in the maximum amount allowed as a partial refund, plus added the rest under “additional refunds.” I felt totally justified doing it this way because the support rep’s instructions (which must be in a predetermined script) stated, “You can also use the Additional Refunds/Charges section to charge return shipping or adjust the refund amount .” Yes, I know seller support is not reliable, but whatever.

If the ship-to address is a commercial address, I usually look it up before I ship, but with this order I did not. I don’t think I noticed it was a commercial address. Turns out it went to Little Owl Prep in Moraine, OH. We will never ship another item to this prep center. The buyer appears to be a flipper, and the prep center graded the book inaccurately. It 100 percent adhered to Amazon’s current book condition guideline; we keep up to date on exactly what they say, because they do change without warning.

OMG, a jerk book flipper who uses a prep center!
Hope it all works out for you.