THIS is the significant point here, and if true, is the deciding factor. My dog can be unleashed, vicious, and trained to attack without hesitation as long as my property is not a place where I invite entry by doing things like ordering things via mail order.
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If you have a fence or a leash/chain. Homeowner had none of those things. Doubt they have visible address numbers if I were a betting person. A doordasher left my dinner 2 doors up the street a few days ago, so drivers do make honest mistakes. It was raining and he had the package in his shooting hand when he approached the porch. That is not the action of someone intent to use a weapon by holding things in the dominant hand.
Also watch the chair as the dog jumps off, it is pushed away from the driver and there is no way to tell the wagging tail in the time it took for everything to go down.
FWIW, I think the guy has a fear of dogs, and went “Oh snap a dog” then the dog jumps off the chair in his direction and he made a snap decision based on (to us irrational fear) but to him (perhaps) a rational fear of being attacked by a dog.
This could have been a lost child coming to the wrong house and we would have had to rely on this homeowners belief of just how good their dog really is, because they didn’t have a pet secured. Homeowner- “If I don’t know a dog I am not going to continue to go near it” well, then keep that in mind when you let your unknown-to-others dog be unsupervised and unrestrained in the front yard for the rest of society to determine when it comes off the porch at them.
A tragedy that could easily be avoided by having the dog inside, a fence or a short leash, or even a sign. If this dog got hit by a car, we would all feel differently despite it still being the owners fault for not securing the animal the exact same way.
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One dog was on a chain, one was not. I saw that clearly in the video.
“I did not order anything from Amazon.” This got me thinking about a team member talking to me about getting packages they did not order. I explained “brushing” to them.
What if this happened due to a bad actor trying to get a delivery to have the boiler room leave reviews.
However, that is not the issue I wanted to address.
We live in a concealed carry state, many do carry some do all the time. However, The TBA contract company or Amazon had a rule that no weapons are allowed. It should have been secured somewhere, not on his person in a company truck.
My main concern is the discharge of this weapon at the dog, at the house. How did they know what was or was not down range for that round. It could have continued into the home, and injured or killed anyone in the home.
I doubt the shooter was current, as in trained and did regular practice. This since they did not think about what was on the other side of a wall, door or window in the home.
In the short clip, I too like others think the dog not on a chain was not intending to do harm. I do think the one on a chain, could have been aggressive. That part of the video was very short, but it appeared when he (the driver) retreated, the dog stopped approaching him.
He should have locked himself in the truck and waited for police. He discharged a weapon and should have known to do so.
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That round was clearly released at the ground. He was not shooting at an attack parrot hovering between him and the house. His backstop was clearly that brick porch step and he was probably most likely to receive a spall/ricochet injury over someone inside getting shot.
I assert most are not, in states where having a pulse is the maximum training
necessary. Also you have to admit he did hit a moving object while moving himself. He also only fired one round and stopped when the perceived threat turned.
He also did not turn his gun sideways and yell obscenities while doing a mag dump either.
We all get to say that behind the screen with hindsight, not in this persons’ shoes.
Nope. Stopped when the shot broke. Look where the dog actually started to turn, and look where he was initially standing when the dog decided to greet him.
Can’t outrun even most old dogs.
Three seconds passed in the video from the time the dog leapt off the chair till the shot broke, dog was feet away and closed that distance in less than 1 of those 3 seconds. Getting to the truck 10-20 feet away is farcical. IMO.
He decided to pull the trigger at second 1.5 and that dog was still coming by the time his body actually did it.
It’s a tragedy due to a series of serious errors on all parties except the dogs.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, it would appear that Bingo! has been called.
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But what about the grassy knoll??
Alien abductions explain that one…
In our little town about a year ago, a man was killed in his front yard by his neighbor’s two dogs. The town now has a leash law and dogs are to be contained on the owners property. If dogs charges you, we have been instructed to put the dog down.
We have adopted 3 strays directly off the streets here. Most of the issues are the owner’s behavior which the dog learns to adapt to just to survive. One of the strays we pulled from the streets would become full on snarl … wolf style attack mode … every time she saw/heard a UPS truck because of what one driver did to her. Same dog would walk the streets with the two neighbor girls (6 and 10) as calm as could be around them. She loved it when the girls wanted to take her for a walk.
Some people are not meant to be pet owners. Some people don’t understand animal behavior.
You get what you pay for. UPS pays their drivers $40 per hour and your driver is likely to throw dog treats to your dogs; Amazon pays $16 per hour and, as we’ve seen, you may get a driver who shoots your dog.
If Amazon had a selection where you could choose UPS for, say, a buck or two more, it would be tempting. I live out in the country and, if I see a sketch vehicle coming down my driveway, I assume it’s an Amazon driver; prior to Amazon Delivery, it was maybe one sketch vehicle every couple of years. Just one example of many but, while standing in my driveway, this lowered Escalade with blacked-out windows (illegal in our state except for medical reasons) comes cruising slowly toward me. As I watch the vehicle loop around my driveway, the passenger window rolls down. While vehicle is still moving, a young man - with his seat nearly fully reclined (matching that of the driver) - extends my package out the window, which I take in stunned silence as the vehicle passes me; the window rolls up and the Escalade heads back out the way it came, not a single word spoken. This is just one of many examples.
While I know that a lowered Escalade with blacked out windows and occupants in the “gangsta-lean” position does not equal gang members, I expect that in the not-too-distant future, we will see stories where gang members have hired on at Amazon Delivery for the sole purpose of casing homes for future nocturnal visits.
I would not be surprised to see part time Amazon drivers using that as a cover for “other” deliveries.
That will be rare, because doing that would be an awfully intelligent move for a drug dealer.
A lot of drug dealers these days are dumb enough to have clients come to their apartment to pick up their stuff. They’re lazy and stupid and don’t want to interrupt getting high by having to go make deliveries. Can’t go wrong having a bunch of degenerates know where you live and that you have a bunch of cash and drugs.
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