Educational background?

Yes, a Bible is usually a safe bet.

I have a BA in Criminal Justice and Political Science. I started our business in 2003 while I was still doing my undergrad work. I ended up going to law school and graduating as I intended on being an attorney (and wasn’t planning on the online selling thing to be more than a short term thing).

20 years later, still paying the loans back and have never practiced law a day in my life, LOL.

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Soon to be a good degree for dealing wth Amazon

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THIS all day long

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Was thinking same!

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We told kids they were not performing if they didn’t go to college and we told parents they raised neandertals if their kids didn’t go to college. Now a plumber and auto mechanic are raking the cash.

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I’ve been recommending welding for years (and diesel mechanic)

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If my kids were going to high school today-and we finally graduated the last one over the weekend-would push them toward plumber. welder(Boeing has a critical need) or car mechanic-and set them up in a business of their own. Would cost less in the long run-and they’d make more money.
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In my opinion, higher education: is now often “indoctrination”. Too many, though talented, graduate in the humanities and fine arts, where they’re never gonna make a living unless they teach in the eastern states, where compensation at least supports educators They might become authors, where the median pay is now over 70K!

In the South and SW , teacher’s salaries are pathetically low, can’t raise a family or buy a house unless have a spouse/partner who’s making a decent salary. Perhaps the Brits do have the right idea w/ their A-& O levels, paving the way for university. .

Back in the day, schooling was a privilege, not a right.{that bromide surfaced from my parents when my grades disappointed and they threatened to send me to trades-school. I-and they- knew it was an empty threat. In those days, had to be MALE to be accepted!)

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But with self publishing on amazons kindle platform you don’t even need to graduate to be an author :joy:.

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Only if parents are stupid enough to let their kid go to school for those kinds of classes. If someone tells me their kid got into XYZ school to take liberal arts degrees or one of the non science social sciences, either their kid wants to be a social worker or I laugh because they are the one with the 2.2 gpa.
Another good one is looking at endowments to some of these colleges and their sports teams. I have parents in my circle who push their kids for higher education at locations based on the popularity of something as stupid a football team. I am not allowed to us the R word so I will just say that is an intellectually decelerated plan, but they want to leverage the other brain cell they use to argue against an actual science education, and say “look at these people behaving” XYZ way on this campus. SMH. I have to point out “your kid does not know what end of a rake to use, and you want to complain about the behavior of a few drunk/high trust fund kids?” It’s as stupid as looking at the jail booking log and saying “look at all the crime in this town” lol.

I just paid for someone to come out and change the tire on my tractor, and their hourly rate was the same as Mercedes charges my mom to fix her car.

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My parents never threatened this, but one of my husband’s cousins, if she brought home bad grades was told she’d spend the rest of her life behind the counter at Bergdorf’s (a local high end clothing store). .

Said cousin has a bachelor’s degree and two master’s degrees, and is a highly paid mental health professional whose hospital-based employer is throwing money at her and begging her not to retire.

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It is always a good idea to look at any college’s endowment, on a per-capita basis your offspring are considering.

So many smaller colleges are closing now and will close in the next few years due to demographics and locations.

Many well-endowed colleges can offer a superior education at a lower price than in-state tuition at local universities.

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lol-hey

I find the opposite is true. They restrict their class size to artificially inflate their value/prestige. This is why they always tout single digit acceptance rates. I would rather my kid go to a state school than one with legacy admissions. Make better humans, not more nepo-trust fund babies.

“The strongest brands in the world — MIT, Apple, Hermès, the U.S. — are built on the artificial choking of supply via rejectionist admissions, premium pricing strategies, limited production, and rationing visas, respectively.”- Scott Galloway

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My kid was one who went into liberal arts. My kid graduated with honors, a GPA above 4.0, AP classes (including calculus) - the works. Just because they go into liberal arts doesn’t mean they can’t do school.

I would have preferred they had entered straight into a STEM major, but pressuring would just backfire. They had to figure it out for themselves, while I seeded their brain with the reality of cost of living and salaries and such. Thankfully, they decided on a double major in a hard science before graduating.

Even if they had not done that, I believe college is valuable even if it doesn’t lead to money. Being forced to interact with people we would never have seeked out, challenging our own truths has a way of opening the mind to other cultures and beliefs in a way that is difficult to replicate through trade school or work - where we tend to surround ourselves with likeminded people.

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I didn’t imply that. I implied that parents who think colleges “indoctrinate” but then let their kids take courses that the parent considers to be some kind of moral offense, are the core issue. This is why I used an either or example. Your kid clearly aligns with A not B.

This statement aligns with my point. Only people that want to remain safe in their bubble fear letting their kids learn about differing opinions in the world. These people should not pay for their kids to randomly explore college, if their fear is their kid will change their mind about something or disagree with their parents.

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You don’t even have to be literate!

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This!!! There is a high school welding program in a very small city (maybe 15k residents) near me. Those kids that graduate that program are starting at $65-75k per year straight out of high school with future paid certifications, training and of course the pay raises that come with those certifications. Parents are lining up to get their kids into this program even if it means renting an apartment inside city limits for residence status.

Any school district that isn’t looking at these types of programs needs to have their entire board replaced with people that understand what the future is going to look like. I don’t mean this as a political opinion, it’s not. It’s just the reality that we need to prepare our future generations for.

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But the guy who goes to college and designs welding robots will make a lot more in the long run.

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The one guy out of 1,000 with the ability to assist in the design of welding robots has the potential to make more than any one of the 20 guys out of 1,000 with the ability to weld well enough to earn a living. The guys without the ability to assist in the design of welding robots but who were told that a college education was a sure-fire path to wealth will be saddled with student loan debt for a long time to come.

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