Listing Variations Question: Use Size or Item Package Quantity?

Selling on Amazon
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I am selling food products in bags. I wish to make a Family Listing like this:

3oz x 1 bag
6oz x 1 bag
6oz x 2 bags

What Variation Type should I use in order to make a family listing with above three options, Size or Item Package Quantity?

Thanks!

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Each of those variation types only applies to 2 of the items. A variation type that applies to all 3 would have to be something that only counts the total volume sold. 3oz, 6oz, and 12oz.
I donā€™t sell food and I donā€™t know if such an option exists.

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First check for whatā€™s available within the Template.

However, it would take 2 as @HobbesIsMyTiger mentions.

Something like:

  • Size-NumberOfItems
  • Size-Count
  • Size-ItemPackageQuiantity

ETA

Themes from the Template I downloaded
Variation Theme - [ popcorn ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName StyleName Color NumberOfItems Size & Style
Variation Theme - [ drinkflavored ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName Color itempackagequantity color-size NumberOfItems Size
Variation Theme - [ sauce ] Color Colour colorflavor color-size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName Flavor-Size itemform itemform-sizename itemweight Size SizeName Size & Colour size-unitcount teamname teamname-sizename
Variation Theme - [ leaveningagent ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour NumberOfItems Flavor Size
Variation Theme - [ snackmix ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ dairybasedicecream ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ tea ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour itempackagequantity Flavor Flavor-Size Size FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ cake ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ flour ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour NumberOfItems Flavor-Size Flavor Size Color
Variation Theme - [ nutandseed ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor Weight Size FlavorName-SizeName Color itempackagequantity StyleName
Variation Theme - [ beer ] color SizeName SizeName-ColorName FlavorName-SizeName PatternNameSizeName SizeWeight DisplayWeight-Color number_of_items PatternName Size Flavor StyleName
Variation Theme - [ breakfastcereal ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ cookie ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size Color FlavorName-SizeName color-size SizeColor
Variation Theme - [ nondairycream ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor NumberOfItems
Variation Theme - [ edibleoilanimal ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour
Variation Theme - [ spirits ] color SizeName SizeName-ColorName StyleName Flavor FlavorName-SizeName number_of_items Size Color
Variation Theme - [ sugarcandy ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size StyleName NumberOfItems Color itempackagequantity FlavorName-SizeName Size color-size stylename-size Size & Style
Variation Theme - [ water ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName Color color-size StyleName Size
Variation Theme - [ cereal ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour
Variation Theme - [ fruitsnack ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName Color
Variation Theme - [ dairybasedcheese ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour color-size Color SizeColor Flavor-Size Colour & Ring Size Flavor Size
Variation Theme - [ ricemix ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ babyfood ] Flavor numberofitems SizeName Size Color color-size Weight Pattern StyleName Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ snackchipandcrisp ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ edibleoilvegetable ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor SizeColor Flavor-Size Size NumberOfItems itempackagequantity FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ sugar ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Size Flavor NumberOfItems Color
Variation Theme - [ wine ] size-patternname NumberOfItems quantityweight color-size Color Weight Pattern Size-DisplayWeight patternname-flavor Color-DisplayWeight Flavor-Size Flavor designweight Size vintage-numberofitems vintage color-patternname DisplayWeight-ItemPackageQuantity StyleName SizeName-ColorName SizeName color
Variation Theme - [ jerky ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ juiceandjuicedrink ] Color Colour colorflavor color-size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName Flavor-Size itemform itemform-sizename itemweight Size SizeName SizeColor Size & Colour size-unitcount teamname teamname-sizename
Variation Theme - [ packagedsoupandstew ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName StyleName NumberOfItems Color
Variation Theme - [ condiment ] Colour colorflavor Flavor Flavor-Size itemform itemform-sizename itemweight SizeName Size & Colour size-unitcount teamname teamname-sizename
Variation Theme - [ candy ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size StyleName NumberOfItems Color itempackagequantity FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ fruit ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor NumberOfItems Color Weight Size FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ dairybasedcream ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor FlavorName-SizeName Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ noodle ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size NumberOfItems FlavorName-SizeName Size Color
Variation Theme - [ dairybaseddrink ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size NumberOfItems FlavorName-SizeName Color Size
Variation Theme - [ nutbutter ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor Weight Size FlavorName-SizeName Color itempackagequantity StyleName Size & Style
Variation Theme - [ vegetable ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Color NumberOfItems Flavor-Size Size
Variation Theme - [ chewinggum ] Colour-Deprecated_variation_theme SizeName Size & Colour-Deprecated_variation_theme Flavor Flavor-Size StyleName-Deprecated_variation_theme NumberOfItems-Deprecated_variation_theme Color-Deprecated_variation_theme itempackagequantity-Deprecated_variation_theme FlavorName-SizeName SizeColor-Deprecated_variation_theme color-size-Deprecated_variation_theme
Variation Theme - [ culinarysalt ] Colour colorflavor Flavor FlavorName-SizeName Flavor-Size itemform itemform-sizename itemweight SizeName Size & Colour size-unitcount
Variation Theme - [ honey ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size color-size Size NumberOfItems
Variation Theme - [ pretzel ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName NumberOfItems
Variation Theme - [ saladdressing ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size NumberOfItems PatternName
Variation Theme - [ bakingchocolate ] SizeName itemform Flavor size-unitcount FlavorName-SizeName itemform-sizename Flavor-Size Colour
Variation Theme - [ herb ] Color Colour colorflavor color-size Flavor Flavor-Size itemform itemform-sizename itemweight Size SizeName SizeColor Size & Colour size-unitcount
Variation Theme - [ seafood ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour
Variation Theme - [ bread ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour color-size Flavor-Size Color Flavor
Variation Theme - [ poultry ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour color-size Flavor-Size Size
Variation Theme - [ chocolatecandy ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size StyleName NumberOfItems Color itempackagequantity FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ flavoreddrinkconcentrate ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName Color itempackagequantity Size
Variation Theme - [ vinegar ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size Size
Variation Theme - [ thickeningagent ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor NumberOfItems Size itempackagequantity StyleName
Variation Theme - [ dairybasedbutter ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor
Variation Theme - [ bakingmix ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size NumberOfItems FlavorName-SizeName StyleName Color
Variation Theme - [ proteindrink ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName
Variation Theme - [ sugarsubstitute ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ cracker ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size FlavorName-SizeName itempackagequantity NumberOfItems Color
Variation Theme - [ pastry ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour StyleName Flavor Flavor-Size
Variation Theme - [ shellfish ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour
Variation Theme - [ legume ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size NumberOfItems Color
Variation Theme - [ coffee ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName StyleName Size Color NumberOfItems color-size PatternName itempackagequantity SizeColor Size & Style Pattern stylename-size Weight itempackagequantity-color itempackagequantity-size
Variation Theme - [ fish ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor FlavorName-SizeName StyleName Size
Variation Theme - [ grocery ] Flavor numberofitems Size Color color-size Weight Pattern Flavor-Size StyleName SizeName
Variation Theme - [ mealreplacementbeverage ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size size-unitcount FlavorName-SizeName Color Size
Variation Theme - [ meat ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor-Size Flavor PatternName Color SizeColor NumberOfItems
Variation Theme - [ milksubstitute ] Colour SizeName Size & Colour Flavor Flavor-Size Color StyleName NumberOfItems FlavorName-SizeName
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I just want to throw this out there, JIC. If you are repackaging product thatā€™s not gonna fly if Amazon ever asks for invoices.

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can you stay consistent with the 3 ounce bag and vary with 1 bag, 2 bags (to get to 6 ounces) , etc

???

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Thank you all for your interest in helping. Unfortunately, it is not that simple. Let me clarify my original post:

  1. 3oz x 1 bag
  2. 6oz x 1 bag
  3. 6oz x 2 bags

In the case of 2 and 3 above the bag sizes are the same. Just 2 is a single bag and 3 is a two-bag set.

In the case of 1 above, it is a smaller bag than the two bags used in 2 and 3.

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If you want to list all these items as a single variation family, the only one that would apply is total oz in the purchase: 3oz, 6oz, 12oz.
Otherwise you will need a second variation, something like @oneida_books suggested.

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Well if I read this right it is a very odd type variation set to try to create into a Variation Relationship.

3oz x 1 bag = total of 3oz
6oz x 1 bag = total of 6oz
6oz x 2 bags = total of 6oz = 2 - 3oz bags

I think Iā€™d try to rename the Size.

3oz(single bag)
6oz(single bag)
6oz(2 bags)

The REAL question: Why is there even a 6oz x 2 bags (if I understood things correctly)? Iā€™d drop it and maybe create a coupon on #1.

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Perhaps this will clarify things:

  1. 3oz x 1 bag
  2. 6oz x 1 bag
  3. 6oz x 2 bags (total 12oz)

Product 2 is cheaper than 2 bags of product 1. Product 3 gives you the lowest price per oz.

By having all three in a family will allow customers to easily choose without having to look at three single-product pages. Unless you think from your experience I would do more business to keep these three products as separate listings.

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In my spreadsheet, there is a size column that is not limited to Amazonā€™s predetermined values. So I can put 11"x17" in there.

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Then actually you have 3 Sizes.
3oz
6oz
12oz (The fact itā€™s in 2 bags doesnā€™t change the size)

Iā€™d do them like this though for the Size field.
3oz
6oz
12oz (2-6oz bags)

Then Iā€™d use only the Size variation for the relationship.

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Thank you oneida_books. You suggestion sounds good. Presently, these products already exist in the amazon catalog as single products (my products, my brands). Does amazon have a tool to connect them all as a family? Or, do I first need to create a new parent? I seem to remember doing something like this before and the new parent seemed to overwrite some stuff like the images and bullets in the child records which created a lot of extra work.

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I prefer creating a parent so I can assign a SKU. I always use ā€œParent-{whatever}ā€ so I can easily sort and find all of them in my inventory.

Iā€™d say to use this as @HobbesIsMyTiger posts, but Iā€™ve not use the wizard for a while so Iā€™m unsure on it a little.

It shouldnā€™t change anything on the children though concerning bullets, images and such.

What the Relationship can do though is show only what the parent has for these areas, depending on the category and variation theme.

ā€œIn the Clothing, Accessories & Luggage, Sporting Goods, and Beauty categories, display elements such as product title, bullet points, and description are populated from the parent ASIN instead of child ASINs.ā€

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Download a category listing report prior to merging the ASINs and ensure your product types and item types are all aligned.

That got me deactivated for 4 months earlier this year. I had created variations of the same product as standalone listings through the manual ā€˜add a productā€™ tool. Over time, Amazon automatically moved them to different nodes and categorized them as different product types. For some reason they allowed me to merge them under one parent ASIN which ended up being bad news.

Learn your flat files.

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Thanks for your suggestion. Actually I have not worked with uploading flat files on seller central and have been considering if I should even attempt it. When you say ā€œcategory listing reportā€ I assume this is a file which can be used to restore the state of your listings (all of them?) in case something awful happens. I am even afraid of doing that as I may screw up everything.

I had a look at the Variation Wizard which maintak referenced. I am still stuck on the first step.

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This seems very basic to me (linked text) ā€¦ when I follow the link

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Choice 1 is if the Relationship already exists and you want to add a product
(Describes starting with the ASIN you want to add)

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After the lookup it gives you a choice at the bottom ā€¦ Add Variation or Generate Template.

image OR YOU CAN ā€¦ image

If you select the Add Variation itā€™s just a fill in the boxes ā€¦

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Choice 2 is to create the Relationship from scratch
(Describes downloading a Template)

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I honestly preferred to figure it out from the spreadsheet method.

The wizard confused me too much (maybe because Iā€™m blonde ā€“ but I fake that too).

Create the parent and then you connect them back to that parent.

I have my products and my brand like you.

Start by downloading the Category Listings Report.

Then I would save that and set it aside. Then go back and delete all the lines except for the ā€œfamilyā€ you want to experiment with and save that as a different file name. Practice with that file. See you wonā€™t mess up your whole catalog that way.

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