[NYT] DT Trade Move Could Increase Costs for Many Online Goods

Although I can’t say for sure, my guess is $25 is not a cap but a minimum. Why?

First, you could play games with costing on forms. Customs won’t know what a customer actual paid Shein/Temu. The supplier could say the product is $10 even though the customer paid $100.

Second, there is a cost to processing all these imports. Doesn’t matter if it’s a $10 or a $500 item, there is a cost to move it through the system and a minimum of $25 seems fairly logical. When containers move through customs, you have to pay flat fees to process regardless of the value of goods. Why shouldn’t these shippers pay the same document fees?

I’m 100% for this as it levels the playing field. If Shein/Temu want to open up warehouses here in the US to minimize the impact of a $25 minimum, good on them. Moves some of the income, revenue, jobs and tax dollars to the USA where the sales are coming from.

TJB

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That’s also my guess, based a bit on this:

  • Shipments under $800 that are sent through the international postal network will be “subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025).”

…so shipments below $84(ish) will be $25, and then 30% as the shipment price increases to $84-$800…until June 1, when every shipment below $167(ish) will be $50.

Otherwise–if $25/$50 is a cap–then anything over $84/$167 basically ships free. :thinking:

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market felt it this morning - the post/at market close announcement was intentional

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Temu already has warehouses in the US and my inbox contains multiple messages each day advising me of that.

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Common strategy when they know an action will move the market. Smart money would have acted before the announcement.

My brokerage account that I manage is slightly up. Not genius on my part. Only two stocks up, but one of them was Costco.

I expect that when I have my full data on my day’s performance at about 5:30 edt I will have about half the loss the major indicies will have shown. If I don’t I might be a little upset.

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I think I feel a change in the winds, says I. - Gibbs, Pirates of the Caribbean

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Like all things that are undefined and unknown when any administration writes stuff as a reaction to previous actions there is a lot of speculation.

I think many are missing the two important words here though – “PER ITEM”.

If any shipment has a ‘cost value’ (FAKE) of $700 but consists of 100 $7 items it reads to me as 100X25 for the tariff. That would be the per item method. The $2500 versus 30% of $700 ($210) is a lot more painful!

One of my suppliers is in Canada and shipped nearly all their inventory across the border into WA when all this started. I shouldn’t see any price increases until they exhaust that inventory which should take several months.

If you sell made in the USA products (most of mine are)
Laissez les bons temps rouler.

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My daily loss is under 2% in line with expectations and past gyrations.

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Straight from the proverbial horses mouth. (and I still am unsure)


(iii) All carriers that transport international postal packages from the PRC or Hong Kong to the United States as part of or on behalf of the international postal network must report to CBP the total number of postal items containing goods and, if electing the duty rate specified in subsection ©(i) of this section, the value of each postal item containing goods, transported per conveyance, in a timeframe and manner prescribed by CBP. CBP may require submission of documentation and information from the carrier to verify the total number and value of individual postal items containing goods to be electronically transmitted through the ACE.

© Duty Rates. Transportation carriers delivering shipments to the United States from the PRC or Hong Kong sent through the international postal network must collect and remit duties to CBP under the approach outlined in either subsection ©(i) or subsection ©(ii) of this section. Transportation carriers must apply the same duty collection methodology to all shipments; however, transportation carriers may change their collection methodology once a month or on such other periodic timeframe as CBP determines appropriate, upon providing 24-hour notice to CBP.

(i) Ad Valorem Duty. 30 percent of the value of the postal item containing goods for merchandise entered for consumption on or after 12:01 am eastern daylight time on May 2, 2025.

(ii) Specific Duty. 25 dollars per postal item containing goods for merchandise entered for consumption on or after 12:01 am eastern daylight time on May 2, 2025, and before 12:01 am eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, and 50 dollars per postal item containing goods for merchandise entered for consumption on or after 12:01 am eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025.


Correct me if I am wrong, but it works this way.

Either a 30% or a flat $25 fee (later in June $25) will be the tariff

So a Temu order of $10 to a customer, Tarriff will be $3.00 or 30%
A Temu order of $100 to a customer, Tarriff will be $25 or 25% (June it is $30 or 30%)
A Temu order of $400 to a customer, Tarriff will be $25 or 6%. (June it is $50 or 12%)
A Temu order of $800 to a customer, Tarriff will be $25 or 3% (June it is $50 or 6%)

If you are

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It’s almost as if they hired the people who wrote the help files for Amazon… :wink:

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Maybe this will help

Ad valorem duty is a type of tax that is calculated as a percentage of the value of the goods being imported or exported. It is based on the value of a transaction or property, rather than on its quantity. This type of duty adjusts with the price of the goods, ensuring that the tax burden remains proportional to the value.

The meaning of SPECIFIC DUTY is a duty assessed on an article of a given kind at a flat rate per unit of quantity (such as a ton, bushel, or yard) without individual appraisal.

Or maybe not.

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How appropriate –

Wild times call for more wild cards…

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Market’s feeling it

+42K now +38K on the D(ow!)

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45K+ beginning of the year down to 38K+ … 7K or so on the year

:grimacing:

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At the risk of depressing lots of people here, everyone was asking for lower prices…

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I laughed hard at this - I dunno - I mean I do

Everything is fine

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Our friend @ThisIsFine likes that image as well, to be sure - but something tells me that s/he’s unlikely to be any more pleased with the implications than most of the rest of us are…

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As a toy seller, with nothing made in America, I’m vibing the Dark Ages over here.

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I hear the Amish make really fine wood stuff.

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I’m only a few hours north of Amish Country! Hope Cindy wants a blank-faced doll this Christmas.

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