Just a reminder that if you are a rights owner, be sure to go through Ebay, Amazon, Etsy, etc and clean house of people stealing your IP.
You work hard, don’t let people steal your hard work.
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I sincerely doubt that anyone who’s read all the posts in your below-linked SAS thread could logically conclude that such a regimen is not to be considered a textbook example of the never-ending need for such due diligence:
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Well, TBH, I did not test buy any of this batch. I simply claimed image infringement on everything I saw with our images. Took about an hour to cut and paste them all.
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If they are not trying to be us, but they buy from us to sell (like they would buy Nike or something) is there a problem?
I’m just thinking if I don’t want to sell on eBay, but they do and they are making a killing, it’s not too bad to sell to them, especially if I don’t even give them any special pricing.
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Depends on your business model.
- Cannot confirm they are selling our product and not selling something else for every sale.
- Returns through a third party are almost always fraudulent in our experience. If something goes wrong they claim INR on Amazon increasing your costs across the board. One of our largest return volumes for one customer is an Ebay drop shipper with 1 in 3 returned to FBA for ~30 different orders of one ASIN over 4 summer months. We have received different items for many of those 10 returns.
- Your pricing looks like crap across the internet. Something you sell on Amazon and on your web page is $19.99, but everywhere else its $28.99, $32.87, $26.84 and to me that looks amateur/questionable/etc.
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Knock wood, I’m not getting a lot of returns. If my prices are cheaper on Amazon, all the more reason to come buy from me on Amazon?
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The issue is when people order something from fleabay, and it comes in an Amazon box, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that it’s being sold cheaper on Amazon. And that leads to a lot of returns which the dropshipper will pass on to you.
The cost of those returns may or may not be an issue, but if there’s enough volume it will cause a problem with your ASIN’s return metrics. It’ll get your product flagged as a problematic/crappy product.
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Yup, see stuff like this across Ebay.
And business owners and corporations wonder why the public will vote away their freedom to conduct commerce freely. Its because there will always be that trash human out there who says “its not exactly illegal or dishonest” and the honest ones get to pay the price, or the biggest ones just prevent the laws from changing so they can get away with it.
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IMO the public will vote away their freedom because they have no idea what it is. And not just their freedom to conduct commerce freely.
Many of these crooks, really think think they are doing nothing wrong, and I am not talking about those who shortship. Half of them are knaves, and the other half are fools not knowing what they are having dropshipped.
Amazon often ships the wrong multipacks, because of errors that occur when receiving and shelving in FBA.
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I assert that they do it because there is no alternative. It is criminal to simply drive over to Amazon HQ and pop Andy Jassy or another employee in the nose for “losing” $1000 of inventory then forcing you to put up $3000 and a lawyer to fight their lawyer to get it back or even get someone to look for it. Then when they do find it, or do pay you back, ensure via contract they never have to admit they lost it in the first place.
Just like civil asset forfeiture, you have $10K in cash on you, it must be from something illegal, so now you need to spend another 10K to get your own 10K back. Golly gee, look at that now we have states banning civil asset forfeiture because some cops decided to use it everywhere and not just drug dealers. They voted away the loophole used against actual drug dealers because nobody was noble enough to do the right thing.
Yes, there is no shortage of retards, but I assert many if not most of Amazons business practices are immoral/unethical/illegal or would be if they could not lobby their way out of their actions. You and I certainly cannot lobby congress when we sell knowingly defective products to consumers and hide under antiquated laws kept in place with said lobbying.
There is absolutely nothing stopping Amazon from raising the bar to remove the mouth breathers, other than profits made off of the customers and sellers that are bilked. Amazon could easily handle the retail theft resale issues but chooses not to by allowing zero vetting to continue. I assert, outside of collectables, unique items and books, the overwhelming majority of Ebay “new” items are stolen/fraudulent/grey market goods. When I have to remove 100+ drop shippers and counterfeiters quarterly from Ebay, and Ebay is responsible for none of it, something has to change, and my only remedy is to vote away someone’s rights being I don’t have an army of lawyers forcing me to arbitrate or go to court.
I assert most of those mistakes are born at the cost of Amazon. It is all the shenanigans done that treat seller and vendor issues as rounding errors in their favor. I would prefer to have Amazon change their tune like they “chose” to do when they got hit with the 75000 arbitration claims for Echo in 2021, but you can’t get foreign sellers or dim witted dumpster divers to do anything as they are the root cause requiring the marketplace changes.
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