Shipping naked (no packaging, no box)

WSJ Aug 11, 2023

Millions of orders are arriving on doorsteps across the U.S. without any extra packaging. A new television may sit in the manufacturer’s box at the door. A blender appears as if it were picked off a store shelf. The same for a box of baby wipes or trash bags.

The change represents the next frontier in the tech giant’s overhaul of its delivery processes, one Chief Executive Andy Jassy hopes will appeal to customers who are put off by the volume of Amazon-branded boxes they receive and discard every week.

The company in the past year revamped its logistics network, enabling faster and more efficient deliveries. Eliminating or reducing packaging has become increasingly important for the company to maintain its dominance, reduce costs and reach its goals related to its climate impact.

“The recognition by a number of senior leaders was just that this is becoming more and more important,” said Pat Lindner, who Amazon hired last year as its first vice president of packaging and innovation. “There’s a significant need for our company to take the next step in innovation around packaging.”

About 11% of items that the company delivers now arrive without extra packaging, or what the company calls “ships in own container,” Amazon said. Customers typically are able to choose at checkout if they want extra packaging or prefer their order without it.

Challenges range from practical to emotional. Amazon needs to help its suppliers create packaging that is both sturdy enough to ship on its own while not adding extra material to undercut its whole purpose of doing away with packaging. And it needs to determine whether customers might not want to have, for instance, a giant package of toilet paper sitting on their doorsteps for all their neighbors to see.

Amazon is using its formidable clout with packaged-goods companies and other suppliers and vendors, as well as incentives, to get them to improve their packaging to survive shipping. Vendors on the site, for example, can get incentives to eliminate the extra packaging layer.

While Amazon is losing some branding power from cutting back on its signature brown boxes, it is betting that the elimination of extra packaging will create goodwill with its customers, many of whom, it said, have asked the company for such changes.

“Sometimes you get a giant box with a very little item that, quite frankly, wasn’t breakable in the first place. And you wonder why they used all that material,” said Kenneth Levine, a 76-year-old in River Vale, N.J., who said he receives Amazon packages about once a week. He has yet to notice the option to reduce packaging at checkout, but said he would be open to it for reasonable and non-fragile items, like books.

There is also some chatter online that leaving deliveries visible could lead to other issues.

“The manufacturer’s box doesn’t have anything holding it shut, and isn’t designed to have a shipping label slapped on it,” a user on X, formerly Twitter, wrote, attaching a picture of a computer part shipped without an Amazon box.

“Amazon didn’t put my vacuum in an Amazon box — I’m gonna be PISSED if someone steals my package by the time I get home,” another user posted.

Amazon Help’s X account responded to both, citing its “Frustration-Free Packaging” that reduces the amount of packaging material.

The company sees its packaging initiative as a critical evolution after the success of fast-shipping efforts, Lindner said in an interview. Amazon in the past year has doubled down on getting items to customers quickly by overhauling its delivery operations to reduce how far products travel across the U.S. In its new regionalized model, many items stay near one of eight regions, The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this year.

The massive growth in the company’s warehouse network throughout the pandemic—it roughly doubled its U.S. warehouse space in two years—helps, Lindner said. The less an item has to travel, the easier it is to move without extra packaging. Amazon has cut the distance items travel from fulfillment centers to customers 15%, and decreased “touches,” or how often a package is handled, 12%.

Amazon tests packages to be eligible to ship without a container, and it says that the system has improved through the use of artificial intelligence. The company performs up to 19 different tests at a facility near its Seattle headquarters that include compressing items, vibrations and drops from different angles.

One item the company put through its system was a package of screwdrivers. The screwdrivers were originally packaged using soft plastic that made it hazardous to ship without extra protection. Amazon helped the vendor, which it declined to name, design a new, six-sided container that would require no extra packaging.

Then the company used AI to identify other vendors with similar screwdrivers and shared the new container design with them. The company reduced the size of the package by more than half to about 125 cubic inches, making it less expensive to ship. For 100,000 of the screwdriver packages shipped across a 12-month span, the cost savings through an incentives program tied to the initiative would total about $34,000, Amazon said

“There’s a lot of stuff that we can do on the packaging design for things you never would have expected were even possible,” such as wine glasses, Lindner said. Amazon hasn’t been able to yet figure out how to eliminate extra packaging for some fragile items such as vinyl records.

Brita, a seller of filtered water pitchers owned by Clorox, changed its packaging to be eligible for Amazon’s program. The company began with its 6- and 10-cup pitchers.

Brita’s designs for physical stores and e-commerce are different, said Kirstin Ganz, the company’s brand director. To change its packaging for e-commerce, the challenge is to maintain the allure of unboxing without compromising the structure of the box. Brita’s change included making its box open like a gift box to keep that unboxing experience a customer would have otherwise had with tearing open an Amazon box.

“Finding an e-commerce solution that delivers that sustainability, that safe shipping and that great unboxing experience is complex to achieve,” Ganz said. “It took us some time to get there.”

Amazon said it made its packaging changes in part because of feedback from customer surveys. The company in recent years has seen a decline in customer satisfaction on product quality and shopping experience, the Journal reported last year.


You had me at “shipping naked” …

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This allows the porch pirates and the lobby larcenists to be much choosier about what they steal, so it might not be a bad thing.

OTOH, do I really want the guys in our building’s package room to know what I am buying?

Almost everything I ship is fairly obviously a book, even if thieves don’t know from Media Mail. Not sure if it means fewer stolen packages.


Since common sense is no longer a thing…I guess we need to expend some time, money, energy, etc. on solving this “problem” in some other way.

Amazon makes my brain hurt.



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From the get-go, I packaged my stuff in shipping boxes because it was cheaper than buying fancy boxes. Out of sheer luck, we are ready for this.

We wonder if this is done in certain areas and not other areas?

We are rural and can not remember ever receiving something from Amazon “naked” which the exception of some items that have come prepackaged (example … a vacuum cleaner). We have never received clothing items that were not either in a grey poly bag or box. And then, same day or one day deliveries don’t happen here either. Best is two days.

This must be something that is experienced in an urban setting.

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I see the problem being when Amazon forces the seller to SIOC for things that don’t need it. We have a popular set of wheel chocks made out of recycled rubber and plastic. It would take a commercial shredder to damage these things, but Amazon wanted them in a box, not just tied together with commercial ties, with a cardboard label/barcode. The dimensions went up and our margins went down offering the same indestructible product.


Suburban here. We have received naked items. They are delivered by Amazon trucks.

So many ways to get in trouble here --------

Full disclosure — I work from home in my basement. NO windows for the neighbors to peak in BUT I get chilled easily at my age so clothing is NOT optional.

My last several shipments came in plastic bags. One was a package of socks in the bag as sold in stores with just the shipping label stuck on it. At least the Amazon guy didn’t laugh at my choices.

I’m considering buying some thongs just to get a chuckle out of him.

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I have intentionally put adult toys in my carry on luggage and snuck some into that of my family members just for fun with TSA.


Wait, isn’t Amazon reversing this policy? They started this SIOC (ship in its own container) about 3 years ago. It completely ruined a few of my products because the packages got damaged more than 10%. Customers complained. I tried to beg Amazon a million times to put these products in the standard Amazon smiley shipping boxes as they used to do. Nope, they wouldn’t do it. So I had to stop selling them up until a few months ago when I noticed that Amazon started shipping them in a box again (I did a shipping test). So I started selling this product again and haven’t had any complaints about damages since started 3 months ago. So I think they’re reversing the policy (perhaps, they listened to the complaints from customers.

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I would be fine with naked shipping if delivery drivers read the delivery instructions and left the package in a safe place. Unfortunately, drivers are just as bad as Amazon customer’s and do not like to read.


I am not sure that all of Amazon’s drivers are fluent in English.

We too have delivery instructions ignored. Often deliveries are left outside the wrong entrance to our condo complex, even though the instructions are clear and there are signs telling the driver where to deliver.

Only Amazon delivers to the wrong entrance. FEDEX, UPS and USPS can get it right.

BTW the Amazon drivers who are immigrants, are more likely to get it right than those who appear to be native born. Amazon’s contractor in our area has a lot of African immigrants driving for them.

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This must be a regional issue. Ours are all fluent in English and deliver exactly where we have instructed.

In our area (rural), Amazon (99%) and FedEx (100%+) get it right with UPS (5%) being a crap shoot. It would be unfair to say USPS gets it right as that is all PO Box delivery.

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We are urban.

UPS rocks. FEDEX sucks. Amazon is totally uneven.

In our area, newspaper delivery is performed by the local fishwrap owned by USA Today (Gannett) They deliver the WSJ, NYT and Boston Globe with total inconsistency, along with their paper which has little content.


How would you know? I never ever meet my Amazon drivers. I see them through the window as they come and go.

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Ten years ago … we had the same UPS driver all the time. Back then (when given the option), we would choose UPS. Now the drivers seem to change every 3 to 6 months and drop somewhere around the front door when the request is under the carport by the gate. They use to do it but not now.

Amazon gets it right. FedEx goes one step further and comes through the gate, places by the back door and rings the doorbell. Packages are protected from the weather and out of the wind (it’s a West Texas thing) under the carport or by the back door.

It’s the same old thing with large companies. It can be the same company but different outlets have different managers which produces different results based on each manager’s direction of operation.

The pendulum will swing from good to bad and back to good with the smallest of change.

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TRUE fluency in this or that language is not limited to mere conversancy with the spoken word itself; rather, actually being able to read the written word - to do so, competently, for comprehension - is the highest prerequisite.

I harbor little doubt that our friend Lake was probably referring to that exact parameter from the qualifying explanation of his 2nd & 3rd ¶s:

#RIF - but not everyone subscribes to that fundamental necessity.