The worst has happened

I’ve been a seller for 10 years. My computer was recently compromised. Unfortunately for me, they got into my amazon account buying side which is the email I use for my seller account too (and made a purchase, that ultimately went through to delivery) , they tried to make 2, but my bank notified me on that one and then also the other. One was cancelled but the first one made it through…

because I disputed this with my bank, the bank did a chargeback to amazon… this was 2.5 weeks ago… I had that card that was saved into my account on my seller account side and updated it when I got the notification the charge method was no longer valid on the 24th. Because the account that was compromised was also my seller account, I woke up to a lovely email today and login screen that my account is now locked… I cannot do anything. I cannot log in to ship orders. Yet, amazon has orders still going through… I can’t see them to do them.. This is terrible, they need to put your account on vacation or something not let orders continue to go through knowing I have no access to my account because they have locked it.

I didn’t bother calling because I read all the time how it’s useless, plus I can’t log in to do a call back anyway. The only options given to me are, “to pay this fraudulent order with a card on file”, “have the bank withdraw the chargeback” or continue to “dispute”… the amount is $583 or so

Unfortunately my memory sucks and I’m not sure what card is on file at this point, even though I only updated it a week ago… I took a guess anyway, I hope it’s right. They ask you to only give them the last 2 numbers of the card. It’s under review. Said to hear back within 24 hrs, but what if it is wrong? Yes I chose to pay for the fraudulent order because the other 2 options don’t seem to be a quick resolution which is needed here.

I could reach out to the bank to withdraw the chargeback, but that could take weeks. Which obviously is no good , because orders are still going through, I will get hit with late shipments and bunch of other things since I cannot login to do them.. (yes I am getting seller sold notifications in my emails, that’s how I am aware orders are still coming in )..

and continuing to dispute, just seems the worst option, as that could take months, and ultimately amazon may just say no and close the account altogether…I do have a police report but again I don’t want to go that route as could take months to continue to dispute and I need my account back soon so I can process existing orders and new ones that continue to come in.

this is my livelihood.

I don’t know what I am asking really. Anyone been here before? Anything I can do? Is there SOMEONE to call to actually “help” me. Or atleast put my account on vacation mode or something?

my advice is to never save your login/passwords to your browser. That was my downfall. I thought I was pretty smart and computer saavy since I am 35.. and grew up with computers.. but my memory sucks anymore and the convenient way of firefox asking me to save my password for me seemed like a no brainer.. well I won’t be doing that anymore, I went so far to disable the function altogether because I don’t need it popping up reminding me.

I use a password manager now, which still isn’t foul proof but better. But yes, I obviously downloaded a trojan or something. I have a new pc now. They got into another account as well but it was just a buyer account not linked to my selling, if only that could be the account with the problem, but of course not.

well, I know this was long, I’m sorry, I just have no one who really ‘understands’ what this can do to someone. (also I am not a big seller, I don’t make millions or anything, I’m just a little guy, who makes enough to support my family that’s all) I am a handmade seller if that makes a difference, if they have better support or something.

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I’m sorry this happened. On the card you changed to - were there any charges you could look up to verify which card it was? Amazon fees would appear on your usage. I know you said you changed the card two weeks ago but this would be the best indicator it was the right card.

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Did you ever end up with a direct phone # to Amazon when you went through your nightmare?

@Rollthebonez - Assume you couldn’t even get onto the Amazon forum to post about this with the possibility of Mod help?

This is a tough one.

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I’d like to see exactly what that says … because I’ve never seen a seller account suspended over 1 charge back on the buyer side.

Maybe the issue is actually about not having a valid card on file?

BTW - You can still contact Amazon about seller support without logging in.

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I looked already, no verification holds/charges on any cards … I know I already updated ib my seller account on the 24th but does that automatically get linked to the buying side …

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Good point!

@Rollthebonez - Can you post the notification, minus any personal info for us to look at?

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i havent called amazon yet , it would just be generic customer service I guess… I just havent ever heard any positive things when people need help..

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Let’s see the notification to better understand the issue.

Don’t believe everything you hear. You may stumble onto someone who could actually help. It’s very rare but you need to try everything if you want to keep selling on Amazon.

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@Rollthebonez try this.

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I have no experience here to give you a precise answer, but amazon would’ve done a test charge so Oneida may be right that it may just be a card issue; however, the card issue won’t lock you completely out of your account. You should be able to log in with minimal access to seller central. In recent memory, I’ve had at least 4 cards be invalid, I was still able to access seller central but could not access most of its parts except Inventory > Dashboard

https ://sellercentral.amazon.com/fba/dashboard/

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I wouldn’t say I’m suspended, just that my account is locked. this is the email received

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this is what I see trying to log into amazon seller central, also if I even try to click a link to update my charge method, I am just taken back right to this page

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And you already followed that email for verification and followed instructions correct? Was that to verify existing card on file or to update card? If it’s to update card, then do that ASAP with a valid card which should have no issues with charges.

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Yes, it does, because as is explained in this 072722 OSFE tutorial (link), the automatically-associated Buyer Account is considered to be “Primary”, while the SoA (‘Amazonese’ for “Selling on Amazon” aka 3P Seller aka Seller Central) Account itself is considered to be “Secondary.”

That’s why the Seller Central Technical Support Page Dashboard that Oneida linked leads to the Customer Service Team, rather than the Seller Support team.

I’m with the others, Bonez - it would probably be helpful to see the exact text of the received message, less any PII, in order to see if it is the standard template previously-observed in these unfortunate situations, or something else.

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i am not able to update anything as Ive already don

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Having now read this I am suggesting contacting Buyer Support. This is a Buyer side issue that affects the seller side.

I’m again saying I’ve not seen a locked buyer side over a charge back, but maybe it’s the type.

If you’ve authorized payment and it goes through then OK. I’d still contact Amazon though on this notice.

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I know Amazon has become somewhat aggressive re account fraud/charge-back abuse on the buyer side in the last year or so, and in this case because your account was compromized they may have locked your buyer account.

Since the buyer account is, without going into to much technical detail, the “MASTER” account for almost anything and everything within Amazon, having the buyer account in “suspension” could prevent logins or throw errors on the seller side.

I 100% agree with this. This is the first step. It might not be the last step.

DO NOT WHAT EVER YOU DO CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTS. NO MATTER WHAT AMAZON SAYS.

Document EVERYTHING. Do not delete any emails related to this. If you make a phone call, write down the date/time/names of anyone you speak to and take notes.

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Not sure how to reply to everyone at once, but I got email from amazon that my account has been restored and I have full access now. Thanks for listening and support! I was a wreck but hopefully I am in the clear and this never happens again. And please keep your info secure! I really don’t know how mine got stolen, I am only guessing, but yeah definitely don’t save anything where someone can access it!

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